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From: Igor Sobrado <igor@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: MS-DOS Kermit: release 3.15 or 3.16?
Date: 28 Aug 2006 10:14:55 +0200
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Frank da Cruz <fdc@panix.com> wrote:
> MS-DOS Kermit was fully supported on the HP-150 up to a certain point; we did
> the port ourselves. We used it here extensively in the days when we had
> HP-150s on the desktop and HP-UX servers. The binaries are labeled MSVHP1 (as
> opposed to MSVHPX for the HP-110 portable). I believe 3.10 of March 1991 was
> the last release for both. Somebody with access to these platforms and the
> appropriate development tools could probably build the newer versions.
It is nice to know that there are binaries for these old but excellent
computers available yet. If I get one of these in the future, I will
do my best to build some updated binaries and upload them to the
anonymous FTP area at the project.
> The HP version of MS-DOS Kermit was interesting in that, like the DEC Rainbow
> version, it had no terminal emulation code. None was needed, the PC console
> itself was a real terminal -- HP2161 in this case, as I recall, and it also
> had graphics capabilities; you could connect it to an HP pen plotter to print
> the graphics in color. Of course you could also print them in monochrome on
> the little thermal printer imbedded in its "head".
Indeed, very nice machines. Without an operating system disk, these
machines become excellent terminals for the HP 9000 series workstations
and servers. In fact, the HP-150 II even had a touch screen.
> I believe, btw, the HP-150 was the first PC with 3.5-inch diskettes.
We have some HP-150 3.5-inch diskettes now. We are unable to read them
because its format was not compatible with the standard choosed by PC
manufacturers.
> : I will continue running C-Kermit on NetBSD, OpenBSD, HP-UX, IRIX,
> : Solaris and SINIX. By the way, I will try to build new binaries
> : for SINIX-P 5.42A10 as soon as the new release is available.
> :
> Believe it or not, I have a Siemens Nixdorf RM-200 with SINIX 5.42. It was
> one of the few machines I was able to save the recent "cleanup":
>
> http://www.columbia.edu/~fdc/museum
Indeed, I remember that machine. It was a gift from Siemens Nixdorf
for the development of C-Kermit on it. An excellent workstation.
However, SINIX-P is not binary compatible with the RM-200. It runs
on the RM 600 servers (SNI machines based on Pyramid technology).
Building binaries for both platforms makes sense. These machines are
very different computers.
> I hope it still works! (A few years ago, after it was soaked in waterfall,
> it continued to work after it dried out.)
Well, it is a german machine. It should work reliably yet. :-)